Martinez-Williams II conference call transcript

Martinez-Williams II conference call transcript

Daniel Goossen: Well, guys, I know that we’ve got a two-part teleconference today so I’m not going to do a lot of talking and I don’t want to hear any applause because I said that, but it’s a fight  – Martinez and Williams II.  It’s a fight that we’re all getting excited about.  And it’s a great fight for our sport.  I believe it’s the biggest fight this year, and that includes the great one that we’ll probably see with Pacquiao and Margarito.  Caesars Atlantic City, they have been great good partner, DiBella Entertainment bringing Martinez to the table and Corona and HBO.

My good friend at HBO (Mark Taffet) wanted to name this fight “True Blood” based upon what we expect to see on November 20th but I guess we couldn’t get those naming rights so we’re calling it “Blood and Guts”, Martinez versus Williams II.

I want to introduce George Peterson, Paul’s trainer, so he can say a few words and then we’ll bring Paul up to say an opening comment and then we’ll open it up to the media.  Thank you again for joining us.

George, how is everything looking right now in training camp?

George Peterson: Well, of course, we just finished our training for today and we’re quite pleased at where we are.  We’re on schedule, of course and will be ready that night of the 20th of November.

Daniel Goossen: Great, great.  Paul?

Paul Williams: I’m feeling real good, man.  You know, everything is going real good.  I got good sparring partners with the hand stuff and I just can’t wait to get to the 20th and put all this training to work and you know, show everybody.

Daniel Goossen: The training is going great out there, Paul?

Paul Williams: It’s going lovely, man.  I mean hard work, blood, sweat and tears.

Michael Woods of Sweet Science: Greetings, Mr. Goossen, Paul and George.

Michael Woods: My question first is for Paul and then George could answer too.  It seems that the first fight was so close.  Is there more of a urgency for you to actually knock him out this time to remove all the doubt, remove the judges from the equation?

George Peterson: Well, I think the judges made the right decision.  It was just those other people that were around that wanted to go to the other way, but the judges, they made the right decision.

Michael Woods: Paul, is there more of an urgency to knock him out this time to remove the judges from the equation?

Paul Williams: I’m going to do what I do best and we’ll put a real beating on this time, if the knockout comes, it comes. I’m going to put that beating on him this time, you know, it’d be much brutal this time.

Michael Woods: So you’re really looking to put a beating on him.  Is there any personal dislike there or is this just what you do?

Paul Williams: Oh, nothing personal, always business.

Michael Woods: All right, all right, always business.

And the Jesus, of course, this is going to be a tough one.  It’s almost a (pick em’) but with talking to Bob Arum yesterday and he said a possibility of a Pacquiao fight after this.  Is that something you’d look forward to?

Paul Williams: I look forward after the 20th, but that’s more motivation in knowing that so that would motivate me even more you know what I’m saying, I’ll go out there and put on a good show, and to be real cautious and do my thing.

Michael Woods: Did you say, “Be real cautious”?

Paul Williams: Yes.

Michael Woods: You’re going to be cautious, you said?

Paul Williams: Be real cautious.

Michael Woods: Why are you going to be cautious on the 20th?

Paul Williams: I don’t want him to be hurt bad.

Michael Woods: You don’t want to hurt him that bad?

Paul Williams: Yes.

Michael Woods: OK.  So you’re going to put a beating on him but you don’t want to hurt him that bad?

Paul Williams: Oh, yes, you know, nothing personal, just business.

Michael Woods: OK.  Nothing personal, just business.  All right.  Thanks, guys.  Have a great fight.  Good luck, everyone.

Dan Rafael of ESPN: Hello, George, Paul and Dan.  How’s everybody today?

Dan Rafael: Paul, in the first, you know, you were supposed to fight Pavlik and you ended up with Martinez on so much short notice so, you know, you had a switch from a guy that’s going to be in front of you and the right-handed to a guy that’s moves a little bit and the left-hander.

I know there was an issue with that, the weight, the whole thing.  So it was a little bit of that short notice, the whole change and you were doing to prepare, and George, I know you were instrumental in making sure that he was prepared to make that big change.

Now that you had plenty of time to know who your opponent is in this fight or know this guy and also having gone 12 hard rounds with the guy, what do you think will be the difference between the way that went the first time where I think it kind of surprise a lot of people that it was such an expose of fight to how you will fight this rematch.

George Peterson: Well, you know, it’s a basic fighting.  You know, people tend to think that he is real tricky and he is real smooth.  Of course, you know, we’ve got to give him credit for that.

But, you know, that ring is just about 20 feet long.  That’s just so far he can run and to the point where – that we’re going to make him run, no doubt about that.  But we don’t run along with him this time.

Of course, we didn’t know his capabilities as much before but we know what he is subject to do.  He knows he’s an old man, of course, and he can run for a period of time and then he had to stop.

He’s going to have to fight, there’s going to coma a time in that ring where he’s going to have to fight and I know who will get the best of that.  So we’re not worried about that.  We all feel confident about this.  We have time to prepare and we are prepared.  I mean if the fight takes place tomorrow night, we all wait, and we’re ready to go.

Dan Rafael: George, excuse me, he did not run in the first fight though.  I mean you stood there and he traded with Paul the same way Paul stood and traded with him?

George Peterson: Say that again?

Dan Rafael: He did not run in the first fight nor did Paul but two men stood there and fought each other pretty much so that fight was so good.

George Peterson: You watched the different fight than I watched, Dan.  We’re talking about Martinez and Paul Williams fight.

Dan Rafael: I know what you’re talking about.  Well, a lot of punches, guys – both guys run were on the deck…

George Peterson: Oh, there were some times that he stood in the gap but most of the times, he ran.

Dan Rafael: OK.  Paul, can you address the idea that there’s really – you know, you will have to make any radical changes in your camp.  You’re familiar with your opponent, you went to 12 rounds in the first time.

Paul Williams: Oh, yes.  This one will be more brutal this time.  It will be more action and there will be more punches thrown.  The same as on the first fight but ten times more so, you know, it will be – it’s going to be a good fight but I know I’m coming out with the win, either with a knockout or even with a decision.

Dan Rafael: Well, did he take you at all by surprise in the first fight, not that – I mean you knew he was a good fighter going into the fight, I know that, and, you know, both you and George as well as Goossen and everybody had nothing but respect for him going into the fight but there’s a difference between what we think you’re going to get when you go into the fight and what you actually get in the tough 12-round fight.

How surprised were you that it turned out to be that difficult of a fight compared to maybe what you had in your mind going into it?

Paul Williams: To me, it wasn’t that difficult, you know what I’m saying?  Him being, you know what I’m saying? Being slick and moving and running a lot, running around, you know what I’m saying?  Jumping in and jumping out.  You know, I have to get adjusted to that and I started getting adjusted to that you know what I’m saying? And OK, I can deal with it now.

Dan Rafael: Now, you can deal with it, you said?

Paul Williams: Yes.  And I had like a couple of rounds that I had to go adjusting because of him moving around and all that, jumping in, jumping out, throwing punches and stuff and I thought that will give him the match.

Dan Rafael: OK.  And just one other thing, I saw the 30-day weigh ins.  There was particular – the weights were set out to us.  You were 162 to the press release and Sergio was 176 pounds – clearly, a big difference in weight.

Are you there with your normal work or have you tried extra hard or is it just, melt it off those pounds, because, you know, he’s still quite heavy relative to when you’re fighting and compared to where you were at?

Paul Williams: We’re just doing everything that we always do.  You know, nothing is different and no crazy training and nothing like that, we just went to a natural workout and, you know, I have no problem with the weight always, you know.  It’s just putting in the time and work.

George Peterson: We had to watch our weight.  We’ve got to put on some weight though because what happened, he will be weigh – we know we’ve got three more weeks of training.

Dan Rafael: Yes.

George Peterson: And if we didn’t put on some weight, he will be under the weight limit because he’s constantly working off the weight so, you know, we’re not having trouble with the weight.  Again, we had to put weight on.

Dan Rafael: All right.  Thank you guys very much.  I appreciate it.  Good luck to you guys.

Daniel Goossen: Dan, as you know…

Dan Rafael: Yes?

Daniel Goossen: …as we’ve been saying all along, we were looking for our next fight at 147 so that’s one of the reasons why we’re sitting here doing what we’re doing because we couldn’t get Pacquiao in the ring.

Dan Rafael: OK.  Is that also by the way – is that why the weight for this fight is 158 as opposed to the…

George Peterson: That’s exactly what I said to you before, is that, you know, we had Paul in, you know, looking towards 147-pound fight and obviously, that came into play on our discussion.

Dan Rafael: All right.  Thanks a lot.

Lem Satterfield of AOL Fanhouse: Hey, guys, I have one question that I’d like Dan, Paul and George to answer separately, if one of you doesn’t feel like the other has completely answered it, and that is, in my mind and I think in the mind of everyone in the sport, this was indeed Paul’s most difficult fight.  Can you guys each address leading into the fight why that is it that being the case?

George Peterson: Well, you’ve got to bear in mind we only had three weeks to prepare for this, Lem.  Apparently, you missed that point, but we had three weeks to prepare for this so we didn’t have time to prepare.  You know, me, we had to fly in and he had to get adjusted, we didn’t have preparation time.  That’s it.  Just as simple as that.

So – but this time, it’s going to be different.  You know, we’ve got time to prepare so, you know, this is nothing to Paul.  Paul walked out victorious.  You’ve got to remember, Paul has got to win over him.  He does not have a win over Paul.  So he’s got to be grateful that Paul has given him a rematch.  Remember that Paul doesn’t have to fight this guy.

And what I’m hearing that Paul is forced to fight him and he can’t fight nobody else.  You know, go fly a kite with that.  Paul is going to fight and we know he want to fight.  That we will fight him.

So this guy had to do nothing to Paul.  And this guy is no superstar because he has been training for Paul Williams for 2-1/2 months and Paul got three weeks to train for him.  Come on, I don’t –  But, you know, the 20th is coming out and we will be all right.

Lem Satterfield: Paul and Dan, can you address it also?

Daniel Goossen: Real quickly, give me that question, Lem?

Lem Satterfield: Well, I mean that’s exactly what I was referring to with George Peterson, you know, addressing the issue surrounding what may have led to this being Paul’s most difficult fight.

Daniel Goossen: Well, I don’t know if this is most difficult fight.

George Peterson: I wouldn’t say that either.

Lem Satterfield: He’s the one you had the toughest time in so far in his career.

Daniel Goossen: Well, you know, the bottom line is that there hasn’t been anyone Paul hasn’t been willing to get into the ring with and that goes back to the Margarito days when obviously, Margarito wasn’t looking to get into the ring with Paul and he was considered the most feared man in the world at the time.

This is just another challenge, a tough challenge from a man that we’ve already fought.  George already explained it perfectly with the situation as it was with Pavlik pulling out twice.

Martinez put up a great effort that night but I thought it was a sensational effort for Paul taking it on three weeks’ notice completely different style along with the mental dejection he had to have with the two Pavlik fights going down, but enough on that.

This is about Paul Williams showing that supremacy on November 20th and I believe 100 percent without selling anything that this is going to establish Paul at the top because everyone has Sergio Martinez on such a pedestal which is great.  I’ve got no problem with that because those are the tougher fights that Paul wants, we want.

And, you know, the bottom line is after the performance Paul has on November 20th, there’s going to be no doubt in my mind that he is the number one fighter pound-for-pound in the world today and that includes Manny and Floyd.

Lem Satterfield: OK.  Paul, can you – do you agree with both of those assessments and if so, could you add your own take on it?

Paul Williams: I just basically wasn’t prepared for him but now I’m prepared for him so I think it will be more.  If everybody thought the first fight was good, that’s me on, you know, a three-week notice and look at me with a three-month notice.

So there’s going to be much more to see – you know what I’m saying?

Lem Satterfield: Last question for you, Paul, in your mind, is there any sense of frustration that – perhaps in your mind that Kelly Pavlik was willing to step into the ring with Sergio Martinez as opposed to stepping into the ring with you and now he has not only – Martinez has not only fought you in the very difficult fight but also now has maybe the title that you wanted and maybe still be yours and that give you any more incentive going into this fight?

Paul Williams: Oh, yes.  I feel like Martinez stole something from me, he stole the belts that are supposed to be mine.  I have two chances of getting them and both times, it didn’t happen and so now, he got them so now,  it’s more motivation for me to go in this and put in a hell of a fight on the 20th.

And I feel that while picked him because he saw the fight, me and Martinez.  He saw Martinez falling down.  He figured that because he is bigger than Martinez, he can throw some bigger punch you know what I’m saying? And hurt him and stuff.  But that didn’t happen and I’m going to show him how to do it on the 20th.

Lem Satterfield: Paul, thank you very much.  Thanks, Dan, and thanks, George.  We’ll see you on November 20th.

George Peterson: Thank you.

Robert Morales: Hello, everybody.  Is Sergio there?  Is Sergio on the line?

Daniel Goossen: No.  He gets on in about eight minutes.

Robert Morales: OK, eight minutes, OK.

Daniel Goossen: Right.  You had – you already had your questions, Robert?

Robert Morales: Well, yes, because I talked to Paul yesterday as you know, so I’m cool.  How are you doing Paul?  I’ll go ahead and just wait for Sergio to get on.

Daniel Goossen: All right.  Great.

Robert Morales: Thanks guys.

Daniel Goossen: Next question, operator.

Bob Velin: Hi, guys.  This is for Dan and Paul.  This is a good fight for the sport of boxing.  I don’t think there’s any question about that based on the first fight.  But being known as the most avoided man in boxing, Paul, what do you think it will take to get better match ups in the sport?

Paul Williams: I think we’re going to take the media and the network to make some guys fight, the big guys, the big names – and everybody got they say they are the best and stuff like that.  I think they make the big fight happening, right, that the top guys in the weights, they didn’t make them fight like you all got the microphone and you all got control all that and there is like a network so they shouldn’t be putting a lot of fights on if they don’t fight a top guy that’s real hard that everybody wants to see.  We should actually have a poll that everybody go vote on who they want to see fight with a guy and make them guys fight.

Bob Velin: I think a lot – I mean the media has, you know, made a case for you and the fact that, you know, people don’t want to fight you, I don’t – you know, I mean I know it’s got to be more than just the media.

Daniel Goossen: Well, Bob, I’ll tell you what I think real quickly and I’ve said it before, is it’s going to take the fighters to stand up to their promoters and say, “Hey, you know, I don’t want to fight a (re-tread).  I don’t want to fight someone that I’ve already beaten that doesn’t – hasn’t earned the right to get back in the ring with me.”

That’s what we had with the Hagler, Leonards, Hearns and Durans.  I mean these fighters wanted the big fight, despite most promoters wanting to keep it in house for obvious reasons.

So it’s the Pacquiao’s that have to say, “I want my legacy to be one of the greatest of all time and I don’t care what the risks are.  We’ve had it throughout the history of our sport.”

Duran was a 135-pounder fighting middleweights.  So, you know, the size difference and risks, it didn’t stop the greats from yesteryear to accomplish it and that’s what it takes. The top fighters need to demand the biggest fights are made.

Do you think we could make the type of schedule Paul Williams had had throughout the years without he and George Peterson and Al Haymon all wanting to have those types of challenges?  Of course, not so…

Bob Velin: So Paul, you’re not afraid to tell Dan, “You know, I don’t want to fight this guy.  I want to fight somebody else,” or is that how…

Daniel Goossen: No, because I don’t have that problem either.  I want him to fight the biggest fights out there so we’re on the same page.  If the fighters are such as – you know, best example is Pacquiao right now.

Regardless of the type of money they generate, the bottom line is the public, the media, probably everyone but, Bob, would like to have seen Pacquiao fight one of the hot young guys.  Am I right?

Bob Velin: Yes.

Daniel Goossen: So Manny is the one that’s got to demand these fights.  It’s always in the fighters’ hands if their promoter is not on the same page.

Bob Velin: Do you think there is just huge rift among promoters these days that…

Daniel Goossen: No, no, no, just, they’re just smart men.  So they realize the risks and reward factor, but why they’re doing it for internal business reasons it prevents the biggest fights from being made?

I see it changing.  I see it moving towards the big fights in 2011 and quite frankly, Bob, November 20th is that next step for Paul Williams.  He’s doing it – he’s following in the footsteps of a Marvin Hagler with what Marvin had to go through for many years and then all of a sudden, the floodgates opened up.

Bob Velin: Do you think that is around the corner for Paul?

Daniel Goossen: I believe November 20th Paul is going to make a statement heard around the world and it’s going to open up in 2011 for him with the biggest fights.

Bob Velin: OK.  Thank you very much, guys.  I appreciate it.

Gabriel Montoya: Good afternoon, gentlemen.  How are you today?

Daniel Goossen: Good.

Gabriel Montoya: All right.  This first question is just for anybody who could answer it either the Williams’ camp or Dan, specifically.  I’ve heard at first that the weight was 157, now I’m hearing 158 so I want clarity on that.

But I wanted to know why to catch weight.  Paul has been marketed as the guy that fights from 147.  I think, Dan, I’ve heard you say, he could fight as 158, but now he’s fighting for the middleweight title and not…

Daniel Goossen: Well, we just went over that a few minutes ago, Gabe, I don’t know…

Gabriel Montoya: All right.  I came in late.

Daniel Goossen: OK.  Yes, and really, just briefly, what we’ve said is that we were gearing up for 147-pound fight in our next fight, which happens to be this one.  As, you know, we were hoping to get either Pacquiao or Mayweather.  So that was the reason he was light going into the Martinez fight.  The max weight is 158 to make everything clear.

Gabriel Montoya: OK.  I still don’t understand.

Daniel Goossen: Then call me up later since we already went over this earlier, Gabe.

Gabriel Montoya: Yes.  I’ll call you afterwards.

Paul, it seems like you’re really kind of pushing to get to 157 or get to, you know, the top weight you guys did the WBC weigh in the other day.  Do you feel like you really could climb above 160 or is 147 still natural to you at this point?  And you’re just fighting out of your weight class.

Paul Williams: Well, of course, I’ll fight out of my weight class.  I mean I’ll get a big fight that’s what I’m going to go at, you know.  I mean we do – Mr. Peterson, Al and Dan told me to go 168.  If I go it up, I want to go 168.  I probably come in a weight that I’m comfortable with.

Gabriel Montoya: OK.  I’m curious, why it would matter to you what he weighs?

Paul Williams: Who weighs?

Gabriel Montoya: What the middleweight champion weighs.

Paul Williams: To me, it wouldn’t matter to me.  You know, main concern is fighting.   I’m just a fighter, I’ll give him a fight.

George Peterson: But let me answer that.  I can’t understand that question, Gabe.  You mentioned why does Paul undecided – well, I can’t understand.  Would you say that again?  I’m kind of confused.

Gabriel Montoya: What do you care what the middleweight champion weight?

George Peterson: Well, the middleweight champion weight, what do you weigh, 176, is that what you’re referring to?

Daniel Goossen: He’s talking about the 158-pound maximum.  And the reason why is because, Paul is always taking additional risks when he fights over the welterweight limit.  We’ve got a 147-pounder and for the last few years, we’ve been giving up a lot by going up on weight.

George Peterson: Well, I don’t understand with this issue.  You know, I heard this several times.  You know, Hopkins had that built for 13, 14 years and the most he ever weighed is 157 and I didn’t see that – hear that question servicing back then.

I mean I just can’t understand the difference in two pounds.  I mean what’s the difference if a man – if the sanction body says, you know, this weight limit is a certain thing and this young man makes this weight limit.

Daniel Goossen: I agree.

George Peterson: Where is – what’s the problem with that?

Gabriel Montoya: Well, I guess the question will be then why can’t you weigh the maximum weight?

George Peterson: Why should he weigh it?

Daniel Goossen: Potentially with the other way also, Gabe.  I mean and really, let’s talk about the fight rather than the weight because we’ve already explained the weight.

George Peterson: Yes.

Daniel Goossen: And then really to me, it doesn’t make any sense.

Gabriel Montoya: It’s not very clear, Dan.  It’s not very clear at all.

Daniel Goossen: (Tell you) what I’ve said and it’s clear on what George has said and the bottom line is you’ve heard what Paul said.  So Gabe, listen up, let’s talk about the fight because I’d rather concentrate on the great fight we have here rather then if it’s at 158, 147 or 168.

Gabriel Montoya: OK.  You guys have a lot more time to prepare specifically for Sergio.  Last time, he was rushed.  He was the last minute opponent, you know, by three weeks.  Have you gleaned more this time and do you expect it to be less of a brawl this time and more of a Paul Williams fight where you’d be able to control the action a little more because you have a clearer game?

George Peterson: Paul is in a situation here, Gabe, where he’s going to make the necessary adjustment.  Whatever it takes, he’s going to be able to make the adjustment, whatever it is.

Gabriel Montoya: That’s the last time you guys had a rematch.  You came out spectacular.  You blew up Carlos Quintana, avenged your loss.  Do you guys expect something this spectacular this next time around?

George Peterson: This is going to be a spectacular fight, yes.

Gabriel Montoya: And then for Sergio, have you noticed any differences this time around and having longer to prepare – being able to prepare…

Daniel Goossen: And Sergio is not on.

Gabriel Montoya: Oh, I’m sorry.  My apologies, gentlemen.  Well, I think that’s all my questions.  Dan, I’ll give you a call.

Daniel Goossen: And Gabe, on Pacquiao’s teleconference, ask him the same thing about his catch weight, will you?

Gabriel Montoya: Well, that’s not a linear title.  This is…

Daniel Goossen: I’ll talk to you later.  Give me a call.

Gabriel Montoya: OK.

Daniel Goossen: Two more questions, operator.

Daxx Khan of Saddo Boxing: How are you doing today?  My question is for Paul.  Paul, in your first fight with Martinez, you know, we all know as was spoken already only had about three weeks to prepare for that.

But, you know, it was his movement that really seems to bother you and that was similar to your first fight with Carlos Quintana where his movements seem to bother you.  You know, in the rematch, do you think that you’re going to be able to make necessary adjustments to look as good or end the fight as quickly as you did in the Quintana rematch?

Paul Williams: I’m looking good but I want to end the fight that quickly.

George Peterson:      And just want to have fun.

Paul Williams:      I just want to have fun and I want to put a beating him on this time, you know, because I want to land all my shots I couldn’t land the first time.  So I’ll make him pay for that but I definitely will look good.  We got guys in there that move fast and do all kinds of stuff in the ring so I’m adjusted to all of that, you know, so it is a point of getting in there you know what I’m saying? Me doing I do best, you know, saying, walking the talk.

(Daxx Khan):      And what about Martinez that makes you think that this fight is just going to be, you know, be easier?  You know, has Martinez since then shown you anything or is it maybe the fact that, you know, over the last weigh in, he’s still at 176 pounds?  You know, do you think that Martinez is just not taking it seriously or he’s not going to be prepared enough as you are?

Paul Williams:      Not definitely.  You know, he weigh 167 or whatever.  That don’t mean nothing because he’s got a weight you know what I’m saying?  The weight on the 19th and I think he’s going to make the weight easily, you know.

But I’ll say, you know what I’m saying?  In the first fight, if you look at the first fight, you can see me not doing what I normally do.  I’m just walking and twist.  I wasn’t trying by the way.  I just fight in him.  That was my game plan, is to fight him.  I want to try and do nothing.  I just fight hi, but this time, I’ve got some better punishment in store for him, you know what I’m saying? He is going to have to queue up to fight me again and I bet he isn’t ready to fight me this time.

(Daxx Khan): All right.  And one last question was when in the first fight, you know, you guys traded knockdown in the first round.  When you’ve got knockdown, did Sergio had any power that bothered you or was that more or less something, you know, you’ve got caught, you weren’t expecting it and..

Paul Williams: (Just got caught).

(Daxx Khan): All right, all right.  Thanks a lot and wish you luck.

Paul Williams: Thank you.

Lem Satterfield: Well, I’m good.  I was just going…

Daniel Goossen: What are we going to do?  Do the George, Paul and Ringo bit?  It sounds like I’m one of the Beatles when you guys get on the phone and say, George, Paul and Dan.

Lem Satterfield: No.  I was just going to reiterate what you already trumped me with the Pacquiao thing.

Daniel Goossen: Well, thank you, Lem.  You know I took your words right out of your mouth.  You know that.

Lem Satterfield: OK.  Well, see you on November 20th.

Daniel Goossen: All right.  Thanks, Lem.  Let’s have closing comments, George, please.

David Duenez: Hey, Paul.  This is a question for Paul and Peterson.  You know, in the first fight, it seems – it took the middle half of the fight for you guys to adjust.  Do you guys think that Sergio Martinez didn’t come in with that same game plan because in his (claim too) was that it was a short notice for him to try to get for you guys.

Paul Williams: Well, to me, it doesn’t matter what he come in.  This is what I am doing.  (I’m going to be on point) you know what I’m saying?  You know, this time, I’ve got a left-handed guy in there so I’m already adjusted to that style now.  So, you know, it is to get in there and just do my thing.

David Duenez: So in turn, then you guys have been training for what you saw from him the first time.  That means you guys haven’t been really looking to see whether he’s going to make adjustments in the second time around?

Paul Williams: Well, actually, we have been training on a lot of stuff, we don’t care about what he’s going to do.  You know, we’re not training what he did the first time.  We just got a left-handed guy and that was the difference.  From the first time, we’ve had a right-handed guy and now, we’ve got nothing but left-handed guy so that’s the difference that we’re training on.

David Duenez: Thank you, gentlemen.

Daniel Goossen: Thank you.  George, any closing comments?

George Peterson: Yes.  Well, you know, I know that the main concern here has been about Paul’s weight and how Martinez was and how much trouble Paul had with him.  But I want to say we’ve been preparing.  We don’t make any excuses.

I’ve seen this over the past where when fighters los, they come back with all kinds of excuses such as over train, didn’t have enough time to train.  We don’t make no excuses.  Paul lost his first fight with Quintana, he said, “Hey, the nights just wasn’t my night.”

And that’s Paul Williams.  You know, he’s going to get – and he’ll tell you this is what’s going to happen on the 20th.  He’s going to be victorious and those that think differently will find out that night.  So we’re ready to do this thing.

Daniel Goossen: Thank you, George.  Paul?

Paul Williams: Well, you know, to my fans out there, I’m training really good, the camp is real good, you know, I feel really good and I’m going to put up a good show for you all.

And to the people who are not my fans, just stay tuned.  You know, come to the fight and you’re going to see a good fight.  I guarantee you that.

Daniel Goossen: I appreciate it.  Thanks, George and Paul.  We’ll have Sergio Martinez on in a few seconds.  I think he’s getting ready to call in right now.  I’ll be introducing Ron Rizzo of DiBella Entertainment in a second.

I have a few event comments myself.  One is that tickets are going very, very well.  It’s a great fight for Atlantic City, the fans are really looking forward to it and it is reflected in ticket sales and calls.

(Marylyn) handed me a note that the final press conference will be at Caesars Atlantic City on Wednesday, November 17th at 12:30 p.m., so for those of you that can’t make it in person, we will try to have a teleconference where you can participate as we go along in the press conference.

My final comment on Paul, is that he’s a beast and I believe when we see him on November 20th, he’s going to have that statement fight that catapults him to the top of the P4P ratings.  Regardless of how good, how sharp Sergio is that night, I just believe we’ve got one of the best fighters in the world today and more amazingly has been able to do what he’s done from the 147-pound division to the 160-pound division.

Ron, are you here right now?

Ron Rizzo: I’m here.  Correct.

Daniel Goossen: OK, great.  Ron Rizzo of DiBella Entertainment.  Is Sergio on the phone also, Ron?

Ron Rizzo: Hold on.  Sergio, is he on?  They were supposed to call on momentarily.  He was just on the phone with them.  Let me call them right now and have them calling.  Hold on one sec, OK, Dan?  All right?

Daniel Goossen: OK.  Ron, why don’t you open us up?

Ron Rizzo: OK.  I’m sorry.  Dan, first, I just want to apologize for (Lou) not being able to be on the call.  He’s actually the general partner for the AA Affiliates, the ownership group with the San Francisco Giants.

So to lose the out of flight, I was making his way to California for the World Series tonight.  So he wants to apologize for everybody that’s on the call along with Samson, our partner, who’s also had previous engagements in Mexico today.

But on behalf of DiBella Entertainment and Sergio and Cecilio who’s going to be translating for Sergio on the call, you know, we could open up the questions.  We’re excited about.  We’re looking to see, you know, exactly a great show in November 20th.

Cecilio Flores: OK.  I have Gabriel Sarmiento on the line, that is Sergio Martinez’s trainer.  I also have Sergio Martinez on the line, and my name is Cecilio Flores and I’ll be interpreting if any questions, you know, go ahead and – I don’t know how you guys want to start this.

Ron Rizzo: So Cecilio is going to be translating for Gabriel and Sergio the questions from the media.  Dan, would you like to open it up for questions?

Robert Morales of L.A. Daily News: Hello, everybody.  I’m sorry.  What’s the interpreter’s first name again?

Robert Morales: Cecilio, OK.  Yes.  Cecilio, could you ask or tell Sergio that in a conversation that I had with Daniel Goossen yesterday, Dan said he believed that because Paul has full training camp time and I actually believed in this one, that Paul is going to stop him within six to seven rounds.  Could you tell Sergio what Dan said and that could he respond to that, please?

Cecilio Flores: Sergio is saying the reason they’re saying that is that they’re afraid and that there is fear in that training camp.  And they’re saying that because they know exactly deep in their hearts what happened on that first fight, and Sergio is going to be victorious that night.

Robert Morales: And one other thing if I can, Cecilio, could you ask Sergio, you know, Sergio has the same problem that Paul did.  He didn’t have a long time to train for Paul either.  They both have two to three weeks.  Does he feel like him have, you know, full training camp for Paul will help make a difference for him?

Cecilio Flores: Sergio is saying that he knows he’s not here to make any excuses like Paul has been saying that he had a short camp and this and that.  He’s not about that.  Sergio Martinez is not about that.  You know, what’s going to happen is he’s going to beat him on November 20th, and it’s (inaudible) excuses, please.

Robert Morales: OK.  Thank you, Cecilio.  Gracias, Sergio.

Mariano Agmi: I asked him, you know, he won the middleweight title against Kelly Pavlik and now he had the world in front of him.  Why accept the catch weight of 158 when he’s the champion.

And he basically said that the reason why is because Paul didn’t really want to fight with him and, you know, he put up a lot of excuses.  One of which was the weight.  So he tried to put in a lot of different conditions and so to make the fight, he decided to agree to the condition.

Mariano Agmi: What Sergio is saying is that yes, there’s no weigh problem at all.  He’s never had a weight problem in his career and that he will definitely be victorious that night.  He’s been training really hard and training a lot with weights, and on November 20th, Paul Williams will have the toughest rival in his career.

Michael Woods: The question was asked and answered.  It was about the 158, but maybe Sergio wants to touch on it a little bit more from the perspective of what Williams’ trainer, George Peterson, said.

He said, “What’s the big deal about two pounds?”  Now, is the man who’s tried to lose the same 15 pounds for the last 10 years, I would say that maybe it is a big deal.  Sergio, can you talk about it a little bit more.  Peterson said, “What’s the big deal about two pounds?”

For a guy – for a heavily muscled guy and losing an extra two pounds, I think it might be rather hard and it could drain you, but will it drain you?  Is it a big deal – those two pounds?

Michael Woods: Was there – I’m sorry?

Cecilio Flores:      What Sergio is saying is, “Basically, I never made a big deal out of this way, you know.  Yes, they’re the ones that brought up the 158, you know.  For me, the fight should be at 160, but I mean they’re the ones that bring up the excuses and the big deal.”

“To me, 157, 158, 159, 160, that doesn’t matter to me.  I’ll make the way.  So it’s not really a big deal for my part.  It’s more for the press, it’s more from them.  You know, clearly, whatever weight Paul Williams wanted to do it, I would gladly accept it.  I just want to fight him.”

Michael Woods: Uh-huh.  And what does he weigh today, please, if he knows, what is he weigh today?

Cecilio Flores: One sixty nine this morning after training.

Michael Woods: One sixty nine this morning after training, all right.  Thanks very much.  I appreciate it.  Good luck.  Have a great fight.

Lem Satterfield: Sergio, you told me from ringside the night that you watched Paul Williams fight Kermit Cintron that he did not looked the same.  I think you’ve kind of gage your assessment a little bit since then, but that night, moment after watching him, you said that he was cautious and he did not look the same.

Can you go back to that night and see – and tell me what you saw and also do you think that as a result of the damage he took in your fight that that had something to do with the way you fought that night?

Cecilio Flores: No.  He was definitely very cautious.  I mean I don’t want to say that, you know, it was because of me or whatever but I think he had a tough rival in front of him and that’s why he was very hesitant and very cautious.

Lem Satterfield: Did you share anything with, you know, comment being your promotional stable mate? Did you share anything with him in terms of strategy in how to fight Paul?

Cecilio Flores: No, Lem.  I wasn’t asked for any advice at all or anything.  Pretty sure, they saw my fight and they definitely studied that and find ways to beat him.

Lem Satterfield: You said before you fought Paul Williams the first time that you were going to knock him out.  There were some of us including myself that were surprised that you said that.

After seeing the fight, obviously, we know why you said what you said.  What didn’t you do in your first fight that allowed you to come close to the knockout that you think you can do in this fight?  What will allow you to finish the doubt that you thought you could do in terms of knocking Paul Williams out?

Cecilio Flores: Very simple.  He’s going to hurt him worse than he did in the first fight.

Lem Satterfield: Will it be early or late?

Lem Satterfield: Will – does he anticipate the fight going in late rounds or can it happen at any moment in the fight where he thinks he can stop Paul Williams?

Cecilio Flores: You know, I can’t really say but definitely, you know, I want to make it early night.

Lem Satterfield: Thank you very much, Sergio and thanks, Cecilio.

Cecilio Flores: Thank you.

Lem Satterfield: And we’ll see you guys on November 20th.

Gabriel Montoya of Max Boxing: Good afternoon, gentlemen.  A lot of people are making a big deal about your weighing in the 170s the other day.  Is that normal for you to go up that high and weight between fights?

Cecilio Flores: No.  There’s really – there’s no problem with my weight.  There’s never been a problem with my weight.  You know, this is usually what my weight was.  I’m on track with my weight.

And really, he feels, “All my career, there’s never been a problem in my weight,” and it’s really – he’s saying that, you know, it’s Peterson’s and the Goossen’s that make a big deal out of the way.  You know, “I don’t understand why people are making a big deal about the weight.”

Gabriel Montoya: Last question about the weight.  After the weigh in, you know, you, fighters, are allowed to rehydrate and everything before the fight.  I’m curious, is there a clause in the contract that says you cannot rehydrate pass a certain weight?

Cecilio Flores: No.  There is no clause in the contract that talks about (inaudible) but, you know what, maybe after you said that, Paul Williams might want to back up to the contract and, you know, hopefully he doesn’t but I mean, you know, maybe another excuse.

Gabriel Montoya: I’m curious about your reign and a lot of people have talked about the mechanics of how this fight is going to be and I know you don’t like to discuss it before the fight actually happens.

So I’m curious, if you win, do you want to continue your reign as middleweight champion?  It’s a very young division with not a lot of big money fights in it or would be willing to entertain another catch weight or do whatever it takes to get a big name?

Cecilio Flores: Right now, I just want to focus on this fight and then after the fight, we could definitely, you know, sit down and talk but – and we’ll see what kind of offers after this fight.

(Kirsten Beak): Sergio, people are really been giving you a hard time about the weight and I don’t know if they’re trying to imply if there’s something wrong with your focus but for all intent and purposes, you’re at the apex of your career and I’m just wondering if that has affected you in some way if, you know, the money and the big stages.  Are you a different fighter than you were two years ago mentally?

Cecilio Flores: Just sort of record, (Kirsten), actually, weight problem, I never had a weight problem.  Actually, my weight is fine and I’ve done this all my career.  Yes, in the last two years, I definitely matured.

I tried to improve after each every fight.  I tried to change my training camp and find what different ways to make me feel better and stronger and I definitely – I matured quite a bit.

(Kirsten Beak): My second question really just kind of plays off the question and I’ve heard that.  I’ve been sitting here for about 35 minutes.  And the number one question I had is do you recognize that this fight might be shades of Carlos Quintana?

Paul is going to basically jump as soon as the bell rings and try to get you out of there in maybe in a around or two kind of trying to blow you away.  Have you guys studied that film?  Are you guys making preparations for that?  Are you guys ready for the very distinct possibility that Paul wants to come in run right over you?

Cecilio Flores: You know what, he probably going to come out weigh him on the first fight.  I’m not really too concerned about the way it will come out), you know, Sergio Martinez is what I’m going to do to him.

(Kirsten Beak): OK.  And my last question is more of a technical question.  It just pertains to the dynamics of the two fighters once they get in the squared circle.  The first fight, the punch to me actually could make it out to home, that really seem to make the difference in the fight for Sergio, the punch that kind of bedevil Paul Williams was the right hook.  It was the right hook that you would throw up before he could get off and I’m wondering is that the punch that you guys think will actually leads with clean cut victory, the right hook?

Cecilio Flores: Not definitely.  I had a strategies for this fight.  It’s going to be a different fight.  You’re going to see a different Sergio Martinez.  I’m (inaudible), you know, just definitely work in different angles and, you know, I definitely want to be victorious in November 20th so I’m definitely intensifying my training now.

(Ray Okumoto): Hey, thanks, guys.  Cecilio, can you tell Sergio that right before you guys got on the call, we had Paul Williams and his trainer.  And one of the things that George said was that Paul had three weeks to prepare for Sergio when Sergio had been preparing for Paul for much longer than that.

Can you ask him what his reaction to that is?  Is there any truth in that that he had kind of saw that he was maybe going to fight Paul Williams in the future and started preparing for him or did he have the same amount of time as Paul did?

Cecilio Flores: Sergio is saying that Paul Williams is a great fighter and a great champion but also he’s a great talker, you know, and he has excuses.  He had the same amount of time as I did and that’s basically it.  You know, he should do more training and less talking.

(Ray Okumoto): OK.  All right.  That’s all I had.  Thank you very much.

David Duenez: How are you guys doing?  Sergio, you know, with your fight with Pavlik, you obviously got into a guy that was very one-dimensional.  And when you fought Williams, you probably got that really look to adjust your style and he did it.

This time around, do you feel like you have to have more than one game plan because that seems why this fight was so close in decision?  You know, you have the community – talking community kind of dividing in half in who really won that fight.  Do you have to have several game plans this time around?

Cecilio Flores: Yes, absolutely.  I’m definitely working on different game plans, Plan A, Plan B, and most importantly is that I don’t do – so it go to the scorecards, you know.  I don’t want them to be any doubts in people’s minds and also the judges’ minds.  You know, I want to do a good job and great performance and win convincingly.

David Duenez: So the whole waiting, in some ways, does it benefit you regardless if that’s 158, 159?  I mean walking around 169 right now, does that benefit you more than it benefit Paul Williams who hasn’t really sat down on a particular weight class?

Cecilio Flores: Yes, absolutely.  There might be a slight advantage there but I want to show the whole world, you know, who’s Sergio Martinez is and what a great champion I am and I’m going to be the better boxer on November 20th.

David Duenez: My last question is for Daniel Goossen.  Dan, are you there?

Daniel Goossen: Yes, I’m here.

David Duenez: How are you doing, sir?

Daniel Goossen: Good.

David Duenez: Hey, first off, this rematch is great.  It’s something that a lot of fight fans are always complaining, “We don’t get the best to match up.”  This is actually a proven fact that we do get the best to step in.

But, you know, to talk about Pacquiao, so realistically, what if the fight fans, you know, want to see a Pacquiao fight with Williams, what – one of those fights this season again.  Is the rematch in the clause, can we see third or rubber match between these two guys?

Daniel Goossen: We’ve had these conversations internally.  I can’t imagine this not being another great fight.  Fighters can have their say, one can say the other fighter is doing more talking than the other, but when everything is said and done, none of us expect the other fighter not to be well-prepared and ready to fight their heart out.

And believe me, for however long it lasts, whether it goes one round or 12 rounds, it’s going to be a blockbuster fight which then comes back to your question, the possibility of a trilogy.  Yes, I mean these are the tough fights that the fans want to see, we all want to see and I believe that there’s always that ability to do it again when you have great fights.

Charlene May: Yes, hello, guys.  Sergio has said that last time that he did not have – that he did not bring the punch that he needed to bring to the fight that he was expected to bring to the fight.

And he’s humble enough to say that he felt like that he did not win the fight simply because he didn’t bring the punch that he needed.  How is he changing that this time as far as his training goes for a better outcome this time as far as bringing a better punch and does he think he will be able to do that?

Cecilio Flores: You know he’s having a great training camp.  Not much change on the training camp.  Definitely, he changed some stuff around but definitely, when he fight, he’s going to hurt him worse than he had in the first time and he’s going to know.

And I’m going to prove that I’m the better fighter, I’m the smart fighter and the more improved fighter and show the world that I am the champion, I’m still will be the champion.

Ron Rizzo: I mean other than I think everybody is making a very big deal about the weight but I don’t think to either guy, it really matters.  It’s something that Paul Williams hasn’t fought at welterweight in two and a half years.  And Sergio has fought to junior middleweight for the majority of his career.  So I think that’s something that’s, you know, everybody is making a big to do with basically about nothing and I don’t think either fighter has any problem with the weight.

And, you know, the whole thing was 158.  It was just a concession that Sergio had to make to make the fight happen.  He wanted to make the fight happen and was willing to do anything to do that.

And, you know, that’s one of the reasons these fights are happening.  I believe everybody in boxing is happy that the fight is happening.  So, you know…

Daniel Goossen: That’s not good enough, Ron.

Ron Rizzo: That’s not good enough?

Daniel Goossen: Only joking.  This is what I said, I mean we’ve got a great fight.  If someone wants to find out at any moment in what’s already been said in regard to that, well, we can’t help it, we’ve answered it, we’ve said what we’ve said and it should certainly not overshadow this great fight.

So ending on that, we appreciate everyone participating on this call.  We’ll keep you informed as the camps proceed closer to the fight.  Thank you very much for joining us.  Again, Caesars Atlantic City, HBO.  Thanks, Ron.



Reigning World Boxing Council (WBC) middleweight champion Sergio “Maravilla” Martinez will defend his title against Paul “The Punisher” Williams in a rematch of their December 5, 2010 slugfest which had  both fighters knocked down in round one and Williams winning by majority  decision after twelve back and forth rounds.

Goossen Tutor Promotions and Dibella Entertainment in association with Caesars Atlantic City are presenting this evening of boxing – Martinez vs. Williams II – will be broadcast on HBO’s World Championship Boxing® beginning at 10:00 PM ET/7:00 PM PT.
Tickets, priced at $400, $200, $100 and $50, are on sale and can be purchased  at the Boardwalk Hall box office, by calling Ticketmaster at  (800) 736-1420 or online at

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